Newport Chartists Vol.13, p.37

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different Spikes made with Chalk,
I did ask the Prisoner who did
make them, he said that he did make
53 of them. I asked him what they
were for, he said for Chartist Pikes,
he said he had made them for the
Rasso Lodge, he said he received 53
shillings for them, that is a shilling
a piece. he said the people at the
Rasso Lodge, paid him that. the
Rasso Lodge is a Chartist Lodge.
I asked him if he did not sell them
too cheap, he said that was enough
for them, I asked what was the
reason he did do them. I asked him
if he made them to kill our neighbours
or our family, he said he was forced
to do them. I did not say anything
more about that, he said he had heard
three at the Rasso Lodge say, they
were enough to Kill Mr.Summers Harford
Mr Rosser of Ebbw Vale and the -

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Police man. Mr. Rosser is Cashier at
Ebbw Vale . He said that if the Chartist
would gain the Victory at Brecon, and
the next places Abergavenny and -
Newport, that he would put his
Spike in a Sheep or some foul, and
when he did follow the Chartists that
they might Know that he did Kill
a man, put it into somebody. Some
Lot of people did rise that night, -
I don't Know what did they call them
selves. I and John Thomas went
afterwards to another Public at Lan-
grunider, where we stayed that night,
I did not take much notice but of one
of the Drawings. I did not
hear him describe the Drawings. I did not
hear him say what the Chartists were
going to do. I did not hear him say
what the Chartists were going to do
with the Pikes. One of the Drawings
was like one of the Pikes now

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produced. [By the Prisoner] I was not
aware, that you were a Blacksmith before
that night. I did hear you say you
made 3 different sorts of Pikes, I did hear
you did say you did make 53 but whether
in your own Shop or another, I cannot say. The
Chalk was on the Table when we came in. I
did not say that I had seen you make
the marks upon the Table, but it was you
that told me you had done it. There were
^ half a dozen in the House I dare say.
I cannot tell whether you were sober
I did not hear you say you were a Chartist
or anything to do with them -
_______________________ David Jones

Taken before us

Saml Homfray.

Octavius Morgan.

James Coles.

Geo Hall.

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William Davis of Tredegar. Constable.
states. I know the Prisoner John Owen
since last night. I know where he lives in
the Parish of Aberystruth, in the County
of Monmouth . He is a Blacksmith as
he told me. His Shop is by the Ebbw Vale
Tram Road near his House, in the County
of Monmouth, I apprehended the Prisoner
the Prisoner`s Wife in his presence, asked
me who ordered me to catch him, I told
them both that I had a warrant under
the hand and seal of Samuel Homfray
Esquire, - his Wife said they want to
catch you because you made them things
but never mind, nobody ever see you making
them. We had enough of Trouble with
the Chartists without this. The Prisoner
did not say a word more than that he
was not Guilty of Being with the Chartists
[By the Prisoner]. your Wife may have
said you was free from it, I might go
with you as soon as I liked. Your wife
said, she had trouble enough with the

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